CodeScu1ptor

Yes, so this additional level of classification would be very useful for various groups of people. I guess I might not share this idea, but for R rated, 18+ games like Cyberpunk (and other games that happen to develop a lot of adult mods and photos) there could be different approach. Such slider: SFW <====== O =====> NSFW QUESTIONABLE Its purpose: for such games content should be questionable by default and users, instead of being asked to optionally mark content as questionable or NSFW, they would actually make conscious action to mark content as SFW, declaring clearly that it is applicable to all audiences. People tend to put more weight to actions than to passiveness, so they would give it much more thought before marking content SFW. And technically it doesn't have to be a slider if that would be too much work, it can be a bunch of radio buttons: SFW Questionable NSFW

No need to get angry You show very lawful attitude. Ready to follow the rules. But some people understand that rules, like other things created by people, can have flaws, room for improvement and may require change. NexusMods have different approach than yours, fortunately. They want to listen to community and improve. Presence of this feedback section shows it. And you forgot to address "questionable" category that I mentioned in the part of my message you replied to - and this is most important one, because this is the type of content getting most trouble with current rules and shape of the website. Source, please. What is the distribution between Members, Supporters and Premium users? I guess you are trying to say that any content that is not SFW matching adult content guidelines is not attractive enough? My observation is that same photos that were receiving significant positive attention and feedback in regular images area, get a small fraction of previous endorses and comments, despite being published for a longer period of time than before the move. Also I don't see that questionable or NSFW photos have worse ratings here: https://bsky.app/hashtag/Cyberpunk2077Photomode Actually, top NSFW post I found has 125 upvotes there, much more than anything else.

Some people may not understand. Some understand, but some of them don't care if there is no decent alternative space for them. They will break rules if this is the only way to post their artworks. And this reply of yours is missing the point. This thread is about acknowledging need from community and creating a decent space for questionable and NSFW artworks, just like many other pages have. Honestly, I don't care about NexusMods as a platform. Why would I? Let staff run this page as they want. Technically there are better platforms for virtual photography. But as far as I know, only here people have built up a community where creators who post their work can expect some heartfelt comments that multiplied over time can turn into friendships. And I want to keep those people together, nobody left behind. It's the only reason why I have created this thread.

I'm not sure if it is a problem that applies here... This website will probably have to apply specific measures for UK. For example, currently it is possible to simply create account and declare being adult at age gate to access adult mods. Any premium user (including minors who will ask parents for premium to download mods) has only one setting to switch to access supporters area. So current setup is very likely insufficient for UK and the one I propose will not make things worse or better in these regards.

Just checked, anonymous (not logged) users have it preset that they won't see adult content in image share.

Yes Vince, this is something unacceptable and it is another topic to emphasize. But I decided that I will go with one at a time, focusing attention on one thing, otherwise my own posts would compete with each other.

Some evidence - this NSFW image (link) is a collage of photos that don't meet adult content guidelines I found in randomly picked 7 days period on the website (just selected a random page few weeks back and browsed 7 days through). Minors can now browse such images on the website. Number of those could go down drastically: If moderation would start working together with users, not against users: I have joined Itaku recently. Made few mistakes with adult images classification from the start. Didn't even receive a warning! There: People suggest change instead of reporting infraction. Moderators help classifying content on the page instead of making people anxious with warnings and punishing them with bans. Staff assumes good will of the userbase and I see that it works - my first set was adjusted quickly not only with different classification, but also with additional tags. If people would have decent place to publish photos that are not SFW: Supporters area is out of question, since this is separated, isolated area that is unavailable for most users since only supporters and premium users can have access there, You support many adult mods. How do you expect that images people will post will only meet adult content guidelines?

TL;DR scroll down to parts in bold. ------------------------- Hey Moderators and Staff of NexusMods, After my latest ban (which was an accident from your side) I promised that I will speak up - so here I do what I promised. I want to start with the most serious problem, not saturating the forum with other (still serious) issues. I try to be very concise below to summarize the problem, although I would like to support my claims with examples. If it will be ok, I'll add them later in discussion. Note that anything that will be mentioned below is not accusation of you having some attitude or intentions, but it shows impact on community, which is what it is regardless of your intentions. My job is senior software engineer, experienced in project work. So I want to propose idea that can be implemented in phases, starting from very small and easy changes. ------------------------- Hey Community, Please participate. I saw people complaining, saying that things have to change. But how are things going to change? You are here to ask for the change. If you're silent, it means that you are happy with everything here. Read, speak your mind, tell if any of the issues mentioned have impacted you directly, support or criticise ideas, add your own thoughts. Share this with your friends. NOTE: Please read and follow Suggestion Board Rules https://forums.nexusmods.com/forum/9063-suggestion-board/ ------------------------- Problem: Current shape of "Supporters" area and handling of content that doesn't meet adult content guidelines (especially content that doesn't meet the criteria by a thin margin) Part of the community unhappy with the state, User attrition - people leaving website or silently quitting, Unnecessary moderation work due to users trying to sneak under the radar into regular images area, Supporters area is very unattractive place, having low volume of photos, endorsements, comments. It is not even "Supporters" area, its name indicates something exclusive, but in practice it is NSFW area, with fewer people than regular one, I saw some users removing content from there after it being moved out of regular images area, When moved to Supporters area, images are unavailable (notification about new image still points to removed image, notifications about comments often don't arrive). Moderation of regular images area is not fully effective. ------------------------- Solution: Phase #1: (trivial to do, maybe only rules wiki change) Allow using existing Adult tag in regular images area for content that is not clearly and explicitly NSFW, but is not SFW (meeting Adult Content Guidelines) Solution is already there, but it is used only for gore and profanity, any content more sexual than allowed by guidelines is strictly prohibited in that area, even under that tag. Phase #1.5: (maybe as easy as #1, but may require small change that will go into deployment cycle) Open up existing adult images area (officially "supporters" area) to Members, make it available for everybody who sets "Show adult content" option. Phase #2: (much more complicated, to be done later, hopefully can be split further, but this is already a job for devs working at NexusMods, access to code is needed to make sensible planning) Introduce 3 levels of tagging for content: SFW (current regular area guidelines), Questionable (not SFW, but only suggestive, revealing, not really fully NSFW either), NSFW, Decommission Supporters area, Migrate images from Supporters area to regular area as NSFW, Unified area will fix issues with moved images appearing as removed and notifications not appearing for comments. Regards, Code.

Yes, this is essential flaw of proposed idea!

I get endorse reminders, but they are simply crappy, to be honest. I get a list with mod names and usually I don't recognize 90-100% of them. Only positive outcome of those reminders is that they remind me to scroll through recent downloads in Vortex and endorse things that I tried and like - but that's only my own personal "initiative".

I understand motivation behind the idea and I like the motivation, but I don't think it is a good solution. I used one of largest collections for Cyberpunk 2077. Authors made great work and I endorsed them. But they were not really picky when adding cars to the collection. Large amount of those cars didn't deserve an endorsement in my opinion - especially if I would like such endorsement to matter when given to good mods out there. I guess this could mess up endorsement scores, making endorsements an unreliable measure of mod quality / attractiveness and being unfair to authors of quality mods.